Control Commission, Germany, October 1945-1946. Mary Holmes' Memories
After the defeat of Germany in 1945, a Control Commission was set up to support the Military Government, which was in place at that time. This Military government was gradually phased out and the Control Commission took over the role of "Local Government". It was responsible for Public Safety and Health, Transport, Intelligence (which included rooting out Nazis), housing etc. The advanced HeadQuarters was in Berlin. Recruits had to be 21 and were recruited from, civil servants and foreign office and demobbed force's personnel. The Control Commission gradually replaced the Military Government, becoming in fact the "Local Government".
Mary Holmes joined the commission just after her 21st birthday; she was posted to a division, which was at Bunde, near Bielefeld in Westphalia.
Working in the office was much the same as being at home. Life in general was certainly very different. The staff lived in an army type mess with army cooks! It was thought that some of the food meant for the staff ended up on the very active black market.
Uniform was worn (which was neither shape nor make) and army type rules had to be obeyed. There was a curfew at 9.00p.m. No fraternisation with local people was allowed. Germans had to step off the pavement to allow the British to pass by.
One compensation, was the social life, friends were made with work colleagues or ATS, many of whom, when demobbed returned to serve with the Control Commission.
Weekend passes were available to Paris and Brussels. On visiting Brussels for the first time Mary was amazed at the variety of goods in the shops compared with the shortages in Britain.
There were many parties, mainly organised by males competing with different and wilder ideas to attract the very few females available. To reach the American zone (where the best parties were) you had to travel through the Russian control points where security was very strict. The curfew had to be carefully adhered to or you would be stuck there all night and not get to work on time the next day!
Sadly Mary's mother became ill and she returned home to take care of her parents and siblings.
Mary came across many characters during her time there. One girl bought a Dachshund and decided to take it home when she went on leave. She drugged the dog with aspirin and took it on board ship in a zipped up shopping bag!
Another girl took tea and sugar and coffee from the mess (everyone wondered why there never was enough to go round) then took it home to sell. She then bought aquamarine gemstones to mount on silver obtained by melting silver spoons, which she had brought from England, returning to England on her next leave with jewellery to sell!
Going through my late fathers papers I have come across a letter written by Major General D. Stuart authorising travel through the zones in Berlin onto Vienna from the Indian Military Mission Advance HQ in Berlin to Allied Control Centre in Vienna. My father, Mr. AA Gwynne, was a driver and also going along was Major D. Stuart, Colonel S.M. Shrinagesh, Driver Pt. J. Gaston, Inniskilling Fusilliers. My father was in the R.A.S.C. Do you need if this would be of interest historically. I have various other similar documents.
Posted by: mrs sylvia manns at February 25, 2007 11:28 AM
Hi just a few words, I think your site is great as a dunston lad, it has reminded me of my time at Taylors,and at clayton&davies I still live in gateshead. My cousin's daughter said that I know about Victoria Hopper, in fact I know very little my phone no. is 4403342 do you have any info on an explosion at dunston old power station in or around 1944/1950ish??? I believe 2 men were killed.
Posted by: Frank Wilson at March 11, 2007 10:25 AM
Thanks for your comment, Frank. We don't know anything about the Dunston Power Station explosion but will try to find out.
Posted by: Whickham Web Wanderers at March 18, 2007 8:17 PM
This is not so much a comment as a question for those who may remember.
My father was an Intelligence officer in the CCG in Berlin (and other towns). I am writing a book, which is part memoir/part novel, about those times. My question is, when were familes first allowed to go to live in Germany from the UK?
I would also be very grateful for any other stories about the NAAFI, the life, the blackmarket and anything else anyone can tell me about the time.
Posted by: Julia Underwood at February 8, 2008 6:29 PM
My father was on the staff of the CCG in Berlin. We joined him as a family from England in Nov.1946. My understanding at that time was that we could have gone earlier, but my father was not prepared to have us with him until there were some schools for the children of British staff. Several of my peers at school had been in Berlin for some ,months before I arrived. I hope that this information is of help to you.
Posted by: Jean Smith at March 20, 2008 6:08 PM
I have photographs of my father the late
Captain John Terry CBE MVO RN., in one of his albums/scrapbook under the heading
CONTROL COMMISSION FOR GERMANY (BRITISH ELEMENT).
I have no knowledge at present what he was doing there at that time (1947). It could be merely a visit by the Imperial Defence College to HQ BAOR.
If anyone knows anything different or remembers my father, I would be very interested, as I am gradually trying to piece together his extensive Naval career.
Posted by: Charles E Terry at March 27, 2008 6:52 PM
Looking for any infos about Major Errington CCG in Rendsburg 1945 - 1947
Posted by: Heinz Johannsen at June 23, 2008 1:42 PM
I am trying to find any reference to my grandfather. The name we knew him by was Thomas Henry Shelton Hayward. There is a vague reference to him in a book "'Evans Above" page 61. He was spotted on a Leave boat as a member of the Control Commission Germany.
Is there anyway of finding out if he is listed under this name as part of the Control Commission.
He had served in World War I but he left his family prior to the start of World War II and we have no trace of him.
Any information would be appreciated.
Posted by: Elery Shaw at August 31, 2008 9:21 PM
My father (Major William Lamb) was in the CCG after the war and was in Rendsburg. I have little, if any, information about his time there as I was a child of 4 at the time. He occasionally told stories about displaced persons and Nazis on the run but I would love to find out more. During the war I believe he was with various regiments and was something to do with the police (but not MP). He was at the opening of Belson and I think at that point he was with a Canadian reg. Could anyone tell me more, please?
Posted by: Janet (nee Lamb) at September 7, 2008 12:25 PM
Our small group was attached to Intelligence 46/47 in Schleisweg-Holstein mainly for the purpose of assisting them in the detention of SS/Nazi's. Can you give me a description of your father, we may have been operating in his district. For the period of the operation we were just south of the Keil Canal. We were normally based at Minden, CCG HQ.
Posted by: alan mclean at September 14, 2008 2:49 AM
My name is Henrietta Frances(Frankie) Kelly. I was a civilian shorthand typist attached to the I.A. and C. Division of the Control Commission in Bunde, and also in Berlin. I shared a large flat in Lindenstrasse and worked in the Commission's Headquarters, with a small group of women whose Christian names included Florence, Peggy, Jenny.
Depending on what part of Germany I worked, I had to wear an army uniform (which I hated) without insignia, except for a Commission badge,otherwise civilian dress. Does anyone else recall these experiences?
I would appreciate hearing from anyone else - or perhaps reading Mary's full memoir of her time there. My daughter came upon your site whilst checking some Commission information.
Hettie Morgan (nee Kelly).
Posted by: henrietta morgan at September 28, 2008 11:43 AM
My father was James Fraser (possibly known by his second name Alec or as Hamish. He was based in Minden and I have a picture of him in uniform alongside a VW Beetle.
Posted by: Maggie Lowe at October 10, 2008 5:11 PM
Doing a family history. Have some pics of my late father Arthur Pearman as a driver for the CCG, possibly based in Essen about 1945/47. Pics show him still with his "Recce" cap badge, but with CCG sleeve flashes standing by a saloon car with CCG insignia and also by a VW with a Reichpost plate. Any info no matter how small would be welcome.
Posted by: Adrian Pearman at November 3, 2008 4:27 PM
At last, I have found people who were in Berlin at the same time as me. We (my mother and I) left Tilbury on the 'Empire Haldane' (?) in September 1946 landing in Cuxhaven. I believe we were among the first families to go to Berlin. My father was Sgt. Belton Precious and he was the Household Steward for General Sir Brian Robertson in his villa in Hohman Strasse (now the home of the British Ambassador to Germany)
Your correspondent Jean Smith is right. We did not have any schools for quite a time after we arrived. I have been trying for years to find others like myself who remember Berlin from 1946 to 1948 and found this site by accident. There is very little documentation regarding the families in Berlin prior to the Airlift, even in the IWM, but we were there and between us we could fill the gaps. If anyone is interested please e-mail me. email@example.com I would love to hear from you. Thankyou.
Posted by: Anni Ellis (nee Ann Precious) at November 7, 2008 11:14 AM
My mother, Kathleen Sadler, worked in the de- nazification section of the control commission in Bunde from July 1946 to 47. She wrote regular letters home to her cousin telling of life there at the time, she was 24. The letters were subsequently returned to her and I discovered them after her death in 1992. I have had them retyped and would be happy to e mail the text to anyone who is interested.
Andrew Sadler firstname.lastname@example.org
Posted by: Andrew Sadler at November 9, 2008 4:07 PM
My grandmother Nina Stewart-Scott (of Russian origin), joined the Metallurgy Branch, Industry Division within the Control Commission for Germany. She was recruited from the Staton Ironworks in approx 1946. As she spoke 4 languages she was a valued role as British Secretary of the quadripartitemetals subdivision in Berlin. She was still with the Control Commission in Sept 1951 and her last address was Military Division, Military Security Board UK Element , Koblenz. She then returned to the Staton Ironworks and missed her ife in Germay very much indeed. I am keen to find anyone who knew her (she would have been 45 in 1946) and advice as to where I could find her service records with the Control Commission. I am writing a book about Nina, as she fled the Russian Civil War in 1918, travelled across Siberia to China where she lived till 1936 when she came to the UK.
Posted by: Sue Larkin at December 13, 2008 6:05 AM
My father, Joseph Allan (Saltcoats, Scotland, born 1918) was a driver from April 1946 until July 1948.
I have only a couple of letters, one is a letter of reference from an Elizabeth Guiney/Gunney/Ginney, from the Control Service Personnel Department of the Foreign Office (Norfolk House, St Jame's Sq, London).
If anyone knows of my father, I would love to hear from you. My email address is email@example.com
For those writing novels, I think you can see there are a few people who would be interested in reading your findings!!
To the Web Wanderers, thank you for creating this site! It would be so appreciated if you could provide a means of uploading scanned documents (letters, etc). Together we could piece together that part of our shared history.
Thanks again, Jocelyn Allen.
Posted by: Jocelyn Allen at January 11, 2009 1:04 AM
I have just discovered this site whilst looking through a very extensive photograpic record of my late father-in-laws which he kept during his time in the legal Division of the Control Commission for Germany (British Element). As well as the wonderfull photographs of the ancient town of Lubbecke and surrounding areas he has many photographs and names of the staff of the division. My late father-in Law was Chief Clerk SSM. In 1947 he recieved an MBE. for his work in this post.
If you would like to see this photgrapic record please contact me.
Posted by: Patricia Vayro at March 9, 2009 10:38 PM
My father, Arthur Joseph Smith, went to Nuremberg with the CCG and worked for one of the judges in the Subsequent Trials (i.e. after the major war criminals such as Goerring had been tried). He had previously been in the Royal Navy, worked at the Admiralty during the War (I believe in Intelligence). I would be grateful to receive any help in tracing the name of the judge for whom he worked, or any reference to my father. Thank you.
Posted by: Di Clatworthy at March 28, 2009 1:24 PM
My mother, Peggy Helm (now Hallah) was in the control commission in Hildesheim after the war and would like to get in touch with anyone who knew her there. If anyone remembers her or my father, Frank Hallah, then please do get in touch with me and I will pass the information to her.
Posted by: Peggy Hallah (nee Helm) at April 10, 2009 6:43 PM
Have just found this site whilst trying to trace some information of my fathers army service in Germany during the period 1942 - 1946.He was Private Harold Canning and was based in Lubbecke,Germany, attached to I.A.& C Division,CCG (BE).He enlisted in the South Staffs Regiment but I understand he was attached to another regiment,if anyone has any information on this army function or staff details I would be most grateful.
Posted by: B.Canning at April 22, 2009 5:34 PM
My aunt, Joyce Symcox, has just died a month ago, a woman of great intelligence and dry humour. She went out from the Foreign Office to the Control Commission Germany working as secretary to Colonel Ted Edwards in 1946. He is mentioned in George Clare's book "Berlin Days" - some of the letters from Colonel Edwards will have been typed by my aunt!
(The book is still available quite cheaply through various second-hand book sites and may mention some of the people or situations/facts that some of your corresondents are wondering about.)
Joyce wrote up a litle of her German experiences, and as others have said, was saddened and shocked at the hardship she saw. She said you were not supposed to fraternise but she would always share her sandwiches or bring a fresh apple into work for one of the locals. She too has said that the shops were full of goods making people have something to aim for, whereas in Britain the rationing just made people dependent.
I'm not sure I can totally agree there as what happens to those who cannot cope? Go to the wall? Starve? I still think rationing was the only fair way - human nature being what it is, there were plenty of people who only thought of themselves first - and there still are!
However that does not detract from my love for a very special aunt, independent, clear-thinking, hard-working and fiercely intelligent. She achieved so much in her career and saw early on the importance of making the most of her intellect; so much so that because of her skills, they soon began to ask for her by name in the Civil Service. They even wanted her to work at Number 11 Downing Street, but she said “The Treasury didn’t interest me”!!! Hence the decision to go to Germany. An amazing woman.
I'm hoping to get together with my cousins to dedicate a tile to her memory at the National Arboretum shortly.
Posted by: A Ayres at May 2, 2009 6:27 PM
Mrs Sylvia Manns - I am helping Richard Pavitt with details on his post-war movements and he indicated that he went to Berlin 1946/47. He was a New Zealand soldier who got a commission in the British Army and served with the Indian Artillery in Burma. I'm guessing that if he was in Berlin then it might have been with the Indian Military Mission. Can you contact me at firstname.lastname@example.org to see if any of your father's papers might be of relevance to him, or trigger more recollections.
Major General D. Stuart authorising travel through the zones in berlin onto Vienna from the Indian Military Mission Advance HQ in Berlin to Alied Control Centre in Vienna. My father was Mr. AA Gwynne
Posted by: Richard Pavitt at June 15, 2009 10:18 AM
Patricia Vayro - what was your late father-in-law's name?
legal Division of the Control Commission for Germany (British Element). Chief Clerk SSM. In 1947 he recieved an MBE
Posted by: Richard Pavitt at June 15, 2009 10:21 AM
Di Clatworthy - I wonder if this was whom your father worked?
Major-General Lindsay Merritt INGLIS C.B.E.,
D.S.O., M.C., V.D., Chief Judge and
President of the Court of Appeal, Control
Commission for Germany, British Zone.
Posted by: Richard Pavitt at June 15, 2009 10:24 AM
Hello to all.
Is there anyone who served in germany "Minden Westfalen" in the years between 1945 and 1947 ? I'm searching for my graddad. All I know of him is his name and that he was an Officer in the British Army. He had a room at the Officers home at the Uferstrasse next to the Weser-Bridge. I have only one photo of him. His Name is Charles Breadley If anyone can remeber on him, please go in contact with me by e-mail. Thank you very much for your help. Bye Frank
Posted by: Frank Redeker at August 12, 2009 3:09 PM
hi, My Grandad Langley william James was posted in Bergische Gladbach after the war, he married my nan - a german lady. He says his role in the CCG was to control anything that moved - ie coffee. Subsequently he was the man who could get stuff!! would love to find out more about his role from others or anything about Bergishe Gladbach at this time. thx
Posted by: andrea ellis at August 23, 2009 9:15 AM
to Peggy Hallah Nee Helm.
I was with 117. Mil. Gov. Det.in HILDESHEIM in 1945 to late 1946, i was a driver in the RASC. In 1947 the CCG took over from the Mil GOV. I am now a young 84 year old,I have a few photos taken at that time,sorry say none of any CCG persons, I live in DERBY.
Posted by: ronald.stevenson at October 1, 2009 3:47 PM
dear Peggy Hallah,
So sorry I did not leave
my email, ronald,email@example.com
Posted by: ronald.stevenson at October 3, 2009 3:22 PM
I'm helping a friend in USA trace his family's move from Berlin to Minden in 1946ish. They were collected by a British army/navy truck, taken to the station and travelled in a sealed carriage to Minden. where they were placed in a British safe house. The Royal Navy were involved - a Commander Studdert in Berlin - as the move was connected with keeping machine tool technology and his father out of Russian hands. The family name is Pfauter and they made machine tools for producing gears.
If any one can give any clues to finding more information we will be very grateful. Thanks
Posted by: Marie Thompson at October 27, 2009 3:54 PM
My father, Captain (later major) Sidney G Cheshire served under CCG in Hamburg & Hannover between 1945(6) &1950. He was with the RAOC. Does anyone remember him or his wife Gwen? Does anybody know when he went to Germany?
Posted by: Keith Cheshire at November 23, 2009 5:11 PM
My Grandfather George Eldergill was on a ship to Germany as an employee of the control commission (probably in 1946) but took a fall and was returned home. That's about as much info I have and i would love to find out more about him and what happened to cause the fall etc.
Appreciate any help anyone can give.
Posted by: DUncan Souster at December 2, 2009 7:40 PM
I am writing on behalf of my friend Emer Ward who was with the Control Commission in Berlin after the war. Emer is planning to return to Berlin in the spring of 2010 and wishes to visit some of the places where she worked (if they are still standing!). Unfortunately she is unable to remember the addresses and would welcome any infomation on the location of former Control Commission buildings in Berlin.
If anyone reading this posting remembers Emer and would like to exchange recollections please email me at firstname.lastname@example.org and I will be happy to put you in touch.
Many thanks, Steve Field.
Posted by: Steve Field at December 10, 2009 3:31 PM
Refering to my previous posting submitted 10/12/2009, I forgot to mention that Emer Ward's maiden name at the time of her service with the Control Commission in Berlin was EMER DUNDON.
Posted by: Steve Field at December 12, 2009 3:27 PM
My name is Heinz Johannsen from Rendsburg. I remember a few names from the CCG at Rendsburg. Col Cornell wass the chief. He died by accident in a Sailing Boat in Rendsburg.On some documents I found the name Lamb. I have also Photos of Members of the CCG. And I know the Artillery Regt, stationed in Rendsburg made a Raid at a DP Camp, with officers from CCG. My Phone Number 0049 4331 448855 ( concerns Janet (nee Lamb)
Posted by: Heinz Johannsen at January 9, 2010 5:58 PM
Wunderbar. Mit großer Freude fand ich diese Texte.
Ich schreibe für Osterode, Harz. Dort war in Villa
Uhl placiert die genannte Dienststelle.131 G.I.S.,
C.B.S.R.A.Comm., c/o Adm.Sub.Area,GOSLAR, BOAR 11.
Meine Mutter, E.Schlincke, war dort Übersetzerin.
Die Dienststelle wurde aufgelöst 20.Juni 1950.
Die Frauen vom team waren:
Nancy Kemp, Yolanda Jones, Hor.Davidson,Gev.Mann,Barbara Hartas Jackson.
- Sie waren von GB, Australia, New Zealnd.
Ich habe einige Fotos. Klaus Schlincke. +
Posted by: Schlincke, Klaus at January 10, 2010 2:19 PM
hallo, with date Jan.10, 2010 I have written above
in GERMAN. Now I try it in ENGLISH.
In 1945 in Osterode.Harz there were some camps of DPs from several nations. Therefore the brit.office
- 131 G.I.S. - C.B.S.R.A. Commission was established
there in house: VILLA UHL.
This group belongs to: Admin.Sub.Area, GOSLAR (Harz)
BOAR 11. - This office Osterode was cancelled
20th June, 1950.
Hint: German stamp collectors have written one
booklet about all groups, camps with the brit.FIELD
POST Adress. Ask me.
Posted by: Schlincke, Klaus at January 12, 2010 3:57 PM
Germany,1946: 131 G.I.S. CBSRA Comm,GOSLAR,BAOR 11
- The group 131. G.I.S. was placed in city Osterode.Harz -
The office has had 2 cars. These 2 cars were new build after the war in Wolfsburg. Brit.Major VanHirst had startet the new production (private cars after the war).These cars were called CCG-Cars. 3.000 pieces came to CCG.
The cars no. -CCG 23687- and -CCG 25445- -
British - german VW Kaefer. email@example.com
Posted by: Schlincke, Klaus at January 26, 2010 11:04 AM
Germany, 1946, Osterode.Harz, CCG (BE)-131 G.I.S.
- This staff has had 2 cars. Famous cars - now.
These two VW-Kaefers are called "CCG-Kaefer".
Brit.Major VanHirst has started the production of
this type after May 1945 in Wolfsburg. Till August
1945 three thousand "CCG-Kaefer" were given to CCG
in Germany. World-Famous Car started under British
management in 1945. The cars Osterode are showing
the marks: CCG 23687 and CCG 25445. Nice story? - Fotos of the famous cars exist here -
Posted by: Schlincke, Klaus at January 27, 2010 9:58 AM
I am just beginning to research my parents war time experiences. They met in Germany in 1945.
My father was William Albert Smith, a Corporal in the 1st Battalion The Royal Norfolk Regiment and my mother was Pat(Nellie)Beattie with the ATS at Lubbeke. My mother supervised a canteen with German staff.
Can anyone help with more information about The No:1 Control Commission Germany and Lubbeke in particular?
Posted by: William Smith at January 28, 2010 11:00 AM
I would be very interested to know if anyone would remember my late uncle : R.N.(Dick) Garrard.
He served with the control commission after the war. I believe but Iam not sure he served in Berlin. He was ex Parachute Regiment and before the war served in the Palestine Police
Posted by: Charles James at February 1, 2010 5:24 PM
Im working on the Time of Occupation in Germany. Looking for all kinds of Photos , Documents, etc. Mostly Schleswig Holstein. I have many things alreddy,, to completet the section in our Town Museum. Email heinzjohannsen@freenet,de or phone 0049 4331 448855 Would be nice to hear from anyone. Thank you. heinz Johannsen
Posted by: Heinz Johannsen at February 3, 2010 2:57 PM
Here is the link
Posted by: Brian Thomas at February 27, 2010 11:48 PM
I wonder if any of you lovely people on this site could help me. I am 62 yrs of age and have just in the last 3 months discovered for the first time that I was adopted. I have just received my original birth certificate and it says that my birth Mother was a Joyce Eddy, she was a Control Officer, Control Commission for Germany, and she was living in Enfield, Middx at the time. Could she have been working for the CCG in a back up role in the UK or would she definitely have been in Germany at some time, and therefore sent home to have her baby. Are you aware of any records that I could search. Would really like some help please.
Posted by: Jacqueline Slack at March 11, 2010 7:38 PM
I am doing a family history and understand that my Aunt, Eileen Dickson Ferguson was with the CCG. Eileen was born in Northern Ireland in 1906 and died in England in 1974. She was a nurse.
What years did Eileen serve with the CCG?
What were her duties?
Where was she located?
Any help greatly appreciated
Posted by: Carmen Ferguson at March 14, 2010 2:02 PM
I understand that my father Gerald Milton served in the CCG at Minden. As a small girl at the time my memories of this period are more than somewhat patchy. I remember mention of involvement with the VW factory and its restoration.
How was recruitment carried for this service? My father was chemist and had been in munitions during the actual war, based at Swynnerton in Staffordshire.
Any help would be more than appreciated.
Posted by: Hilary Kidd nee Milton at April 3, 2010 9:59 AM
Vienna, Sept-Dec., 1945 31st (C) Eng.
Any Information about a night club run by T5 Gluck and T5 Atkins.
Interested in securing pictures or copies relative to the club.
Hoping to get re-inspired to finish: "The Dogface Waltz".
Posted by: George Atkins at April 10, 2010 10:10 PM
My late father, Captain Norman "Norrie" Cameron joined the CCG in Lubeck at the end of WW2. He had been in the R.A.O.C. in Lubeck from about 1948-1949. I remember the uniform he wore in the CCG, as it was black, compared to the British Army khaki coloured uniform. My father did not stay in the CCG for long and re-enlisted in the British Army. It is a strange thing but I remember, as a child, him telling us not to broadcast the fact that he had been in the CCG. For some reason there appears to have been a bit of a stigma attached to anyone who left the British Army to join the CCG. Can anyone comment on this?
Posted by: Earl Cameron at May 3, 2010 2:59 AM
I am trying to find out about my late father-in-law's time in Germany after WW2. His name was Capt. Wavel Ward and he was the (a?) Public Safety Officer in C Div CCG (don't know where) in the early part of 1947, and for the year before that was Public Safety Officer in Hanover. Any information about him, his job, the CCG generally would be very helpful. Also, he was in the Army Officers' Emergency Reserve. Anyone know anything about this? Were they "proper" soldiers?
Posted by: Clive Head at May 21, 2010 5:35 PM
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Posted by: Agnes Gray at June 16, 2010 8:44 PM
In 1944 I was with 7 group civil affairs at EASTBOURNE .We landed in France Normandie and made our way to Lille, north FRANCE, We were there till early 1945 .The group was split up into
small detachments. When we entered Germany, we became known as mill. goverment. In 1945 the C.C.G.
STARTED TO TAKE OVER.
I WAS A DRIVER in the RASC, I am now 84 year old.
Posted by: ronald. stevenson at June 28, 2010 4:28 PM
I am researching my family history. My maternal grandfather Lt-Col Edward Roger VICKERS OBE DCM MM retired from the army apparently to take an appointment as the Senior Control Officer, Penal Branch, Legal Division of the CCS in 1947. If any one knew him I would appreciate hearing from you. I served in Germany from 1967-70 in Iserlohn with the Canadian Army. I have reason to believe that my grandfather ran a POW Camp in nearby Werl or possibly in Berlin as he had run a POW camp in Northhampton England. My e-mail address is firstname.lastname@example.org. Thank you
Posted by: Roger Acreman at July 1, 2010 7:47 PM
Ewan Carr was an Intelligence Officer in Hannover from 1946. His job was to help re-establish the trade unions after the war.
My best source of information about this is the book written by Fenner Brockway called German Diary. This describes a 2 week journey he took in April/May 1946.
Does anyone have any information about the C.C.G in Hannover? email@example.com
Posted by: Linda Carr at July 4, 2010 1:12 PM
My uncle, John Lewis Warren, my mom's older brother, was in the Indian Military Mission in Berlin from 1945 to 1947. What I do know about my uncle is one report by Major-General Douglas Stuart written on 22nd April 1947 concerning an evaluation of my uncle John. Has anyone ever heard of my uncle from any of your own relatives who worked there? If so, would you mind sharing it with me. Thank you. Peter Maloney , firstname.lastname@example.org
Posted by: Peter Maloney at July 15, 2010 8:38 PM
My father John Leslie Bullock (often 'Les') was demobbed in March 1945 and applied for to the Control Commission ads in the local paper. He was accepted within a couple of days and was sent to the KdF Wagen company works near Wolfsburg castle,(being there roughly between May 1945 to October 1946), which had only suffered very light bomb damage. This became the 'Volkswagen' factory town, then relatively small that grew very much after the war and now even has its own University. There he had the ‘admin’ rank of Captain and a very nice year and a half, delivering transport all over Germany. It was near Hannover, which he knew in the devastated condition one is reminded of in the modern town's museum models and its pictures.
He was present when the 1000th post war Volkswagon was produced, and I keep the pair of metal die cast ‘mantel shelf’ models he was given when he left. Hitler’s ‘Peoples’ Car’ of course had never been produced (bar a couple of test vehicles) due to the war, and it was the British that started the mass production process at the renamed ex KdF Wagen company works.
MacDonogh says ... ‘ by the time the war started only two had been built and the factory was turned over to war work. The British started the project up again, with Major Ivan Hirst at the wheel, and made 10,000 ‘beetles’ before October 1946 largely for their own needs. The car became ‘the wheels of the British occupation’. (MacDonough G After the Reich John Murray, London, 2008)
Actually 2000 were produced mostly from spare parts by 1945.The company was named Volkswagen by the British who also named the town Wolfsburg from the old castle.
I should be pleased to be in contact with anyone who may have come across my father and his pals.
Posted by: Paul Bullock at July 22, 2010 12:44 PM
I am looking for information about a lady named Nancy who said that she drove for one of the British generals through Berlin, she recalled that there were tanks manned at each road crossing, and that she had the opportunity to enter Hitler's Bunker.
The last I heard of her was when she was living in Canford Cliffs, Bournemouth, Dorset, around 20 yearsa nago, when she then went to live with her son.
Posted by: Jo Whessell at August 10, 2010 9:15 PM
Where are all the girls from the Shipbuilding Branch of the CCG in Hamburg from March 1946 onwards ? My surname then was Jones, until it changed to O'Callaghan after I was married in Hamburg in May 1948 when my reception was held at the Atlantic Hotel.
Would love to hear from some old friends.
Posted by: betty langford at August 13, 2010 12:58 PM
Just come across this site - most interesting. I wonder if Patricia Vayro is still monitoring this as I would be very interested in her photos - whether she has any which might include my grandfather 'Pop' Harry Hayward. He was with the CCG from 1945 until 1949 as Secretary (PA I suppose these days) to the Boss, C-in-C Gen Sir Brian Robertson. He (my grandfather) latterly was certainly at Lubbecke. Among other things he was the leader of the Lubbecke Ramblers, and being a keen geologist and botanist I can imagine he really brought these regular rambles to life. I also have a interesting piece written by him in, I think in 1949, on his thoughts of Germany post war.
Posted by: Martyn Guy at August 28, 2010 2:01 PM
I was working at the message and mail center in Lubbecke in 1946/47. Would love to hear from anyone who knew me then, I still have a lot of photos of parties taken in the mess and of the German staff. I can be reached at email@example.com I remeber a lot about trips to Berlin via the air lift etc.and would be happy to share my memories.
Posted by: Patricia Nettell nee Mear at September 15, 2010 11:00 PM
My father - Peter Harrison - is now 91. I was born in Hamburg in 1950 when he was with the Civil Aviation Branch, firstly in Frankfurt. I'm trying to get a statement of service so I can get my son a British passport. Any suggestions for this? Bob
Posted by: Bob Harrison at September 27, 2010 7:44 AM
I left Amsterdam in May 1945 and joined the 504/720 Civil Affairs detachment Hannover. Shortly after it became Reg Bez Hannover. Military Government untill around May 1946. Became CCG (Churchill's Crazy Gang). We then had civilians attached. One Gentleman Died and was buried in the Herrenhausen Gardens. Very likely re-interred to Hannover Military/ civilian Cemetery. Commander was Col. Rex Hume who returned as a Civilian in the same capacity. After leave in July most of the Military had been redeployed. I was placed on reserve and returned to the UK.
I was reading a thread of a female CCG person stated that a curfew and notnfrat ban was initiated. When the military was running things there was no such thing in spite of Montie's edict We had dances at the Stadthalle every week visited the Salvation Army at Maschesee, made an effort to meet Germans and made friends which lasted. Quite honestly the Germans although cautious were really no different to Brits. The war was over. I still have photo's of Hannover destruction. After two weeks in Germany one could not help but feel sorry for the locals. I could go on.
Posted by: Michael Read at October 5, 2010 7:14 PM
My father, Leslie Smith served in motor transport in the CCG in Berlin after being demobbed.
There, he met Marianne Schulz, who became his girlfriend. He had to return to Britain but managed to get back to Berlin with the Church Army. He then brought her back with him to Liverpool where they were married in December 1948.
If anybody knows anything about my mother or father, I would be very grateful.
Posted by: leslie smith at October 23, 2010 10:19 PM
Hello, I am researching material for a film script and I am wondering if any of your contributors would have information as to how US service personnel would have travelled to and from Berlin to the UK in 1945/46.
Posted by: Brian Palfrey at October 27, 2010 2:41 PM
Arthur Dalton was a member of the CCG and worked during the Berlin airlift.As a child he spoke of a girl called Karen Ehrlich from Wan Eickel and going shooting to get food for the families.Any further info welcomed to piece together his life during the years he was there-he finished at the end of 1948.I think he had something to do with cooking.
Posted by: christine donald at October 28, 2010 9:28 AM
I was staioned in Münster with the RASC.
I used to arrange trips to Enscede in Holland each week end with some very charming ladies of the CCG Station in the "Flak Kasserne".
Posted by: Owen Smart at October 29, 2010 10:40 AM
I am trying to trace Patricia Lola Malone who worked with the Control Commission in Berlin before returning to England in 1948. She later travelled to Canada to stay with Mary Arrington (also of the Control Commission). Does anyone have any memories of working with Patricia? I would love to find out more about her. Thanks.
Posted by: Lynne at November 4, 2010 3:13 PM
I have an elderly friend who might be able to help you with information about Patricia Lola Malone. She is very wary about having her name broadcast but if you could contact me personally I will put you in touch with her . Angela
Posted by: angela at November 8, 2010 10:27 AM
Hi, excellent site. My name is John Holland. My father Charles Holland worked in the CCG. We lived in Lemgo in a house across from the barracks. I was 5 yrs old at the time. I believe my father was with the RASC at that time. He died in 1987, but as most servicemen in those days never spoke about 'what they did in the war'. I would be very interested if anyone knew my father, or knew of him. What he did etc. I have been living in Australia for some time. I returned to the UK in 2007, now live in west Wales. When my family returned to UK from Germany we lived in Putney in London. I remember one of my fathers' friends was JONNY JOHNSON. He came back around the same time 1947. Lived in New Malden in Surrey. Any information gratefully received. eMAIL firstname.lastname@example.org
Posted by: J.M.Holland at November 9, 2010 12:40 PM
I wish to respond to a few posts on this site. My father is John rh...: one of the heads of the Control Commission of Germany, he interrogated Albert Speir and is still alive!!! Aadrian Pearman posted about the ccg driver, that was my dads driver !!, have photo.... in Gunewald sector - labour control office!!!, no joke - the assistant whom worked for ccg - my dad's assistants, the woman whom assisted in the recent movie - Decline - worked for my father, one of approx. 13 members of the original BAOR and Royal Pioneer Corps, we went to the 60 anniv. of Normandy landing and he received in private ceremony token medal in honor, they couldn't believe he was still alive, and not in french corriculum regarding WW2 history, although almost unbelievably this is all true, my father is still alive and though although cannot remember what he did in the last decade has an impeccable memory of all these events, he just finished his memoirs and probably can answer most posts on this site, his service record is factual and undoubtedly he is the only one still alive from this era, he is now 87 was born in Berlin and was educated in the British Embassy between WW1 and WW2 and raised the union jack over those years!, one of 13 or so who first entered Hitlers bunker before let to Russians and has photos and appropriate documentation!!! The assistant whom wrote or added insight to the movie Decline worked for the ccg under my father at wars end!!
Yes , he is still alive !
Will respond to pertinent questions and direct relatives only, if sceptical ask a question and be surprised, thus why i looked at my fathers photos and knew only vw bug was his with driver in that district , all else is false, most people who write on this post only have tid bits of knowledge from past relatives, my dad - alive and real !!
Posted by: brian at November 22, 2010 11:34 AM
To whom posted about the parties of the ccg - my dad always talks about the parties, they used the costumes from the opera house etc. which validifies your point , he has photos of this and all the staff at the ccg,
Posted by: brian at November 22, 2010 11:55 AM
To the post Hitlers bunker, my father was there, my grandfather did pluto and retired to Canford cliffs and passed of Parkinsons 20 years ago, seems info got passed wrong my dad moved to Canada with mom and dad after war, moms side had place at Canford cliffs, Poole, Chadderly Wood Road,...in 1979!!! Poole, Dorset!!!! all real ....
Posted by: brian at November 22, 2010 11:59 AM
Supposedly my father said that at the end of Berlin they took old inactive tanks out and put around to look active!! And staff from bunker covered themselves in porridge to look diseased as to bypass Russian troops and not be assaulted!! His team were first in bunker and chalselry....documented for ccg and let American magine stars and stripes take credit as they were only ones with flash bulbs!!!
Posted by: brian at November 22, 2010 12:07 PM
Re Angela's comment about Patricia Lola Malone
Thank you Angela, that would be wonderful. I don't know how to contact you but if you would like to email me my address is email@example.com
Posted by: Lynne Johnstone at November 25, 2010 2:25 PM
I am researching the life of my uncle James Roberts. He was in the CCG Dusseldorf in 1947, he was 55. I would like to know how he was recruited? Or to whom did he apply? Where can I obtain any service record relating to him?. He suddenly died at a railway station in Widnes in October 1947 whilst returning to Germany from leave. He had a background as a soldier in WW1 and a police officer in Lancashire. Was he a policman, soldier, driver or what? Rod Murray.
Posted by: rod murray at November 29, 2010 3:20 PM
I AM RESEARCHING MY GRANDFATHERS SERVICE IN THE CONTROL COMMISSION GERMANY. HIS NAME WAS GEORGE MILNER,BORN 30TH AUG 1896 IN SHEFFIELD, ENGLAND. IN 1914 EMIGRATED TO MONTREAL, CANADA TO START UP AN OFFICE FOR THE BALFOUR STEEL COMPANY. IN 1916 HE JOINED THE 148TH OVERSEAS BATTALION OF THE CANADIAN EXPEDITIONARY FORCE. TRAINED IN ENGLAND AND LATER JOINED THE RFC AS OBSERVER. ONE TOUR OF OPS LATER AND WAS SENT TO BROOKLANDS TO TRAIN AS A PILOT. FLEW IN FRANCE WITH 9 SQN.IN 1938, MUNICH CRISIS, REJOINED RAF AS A F/LT IN RAF INTELLIGENCE, LATER SQN LDR AND SENT TO FREETOWN WEST AFRICA AS W/CDR. AT WAR END HE WAS IN THE 2ND TACTICAL AIRFORCE INTELLIGENCE. LATER IN THE AIR HQ,BRITISH AIRFORCE OF OCCUPATION DATED 8TH AUG 1945 STATION AT BORDEILSEN, B.A.F.O HQ. NEARBY WAS BUCKERBURG AIRFIELD BUILT POSTWAR BY THE BRITISH. NEXT POSTING WAS TO GRAVEN,NEAR MUNSTER. NEXT POSTING WAS TO KIEL, NEAR SCHLESWIG HOLSTEIN. 1946 HE LEFT THE RAF AND JOINED THE CONTROL COMMISSION GERMANY. GEORGE AND HIS WIFE HELEN LIVED IN GERMANY FOR EIGHT YEARS. THEY LIVED IN BERLIN. GEORGE MILNER LEFT IN 1955. I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT ANYMORE INFORMATION TO WHAT HE WAS DOING IN THE CCG, ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED, REGARDS GEOFF MILNER.
Posted by: GEOFF MILNER at January 12, 2011 9:33 AM
I am a military historian and having written a large tome on military badges am often offered unusual badges for identification or as 'gizits'. (Please Google 'British Army Badges by Robin Hodges'). I am presently writing a book on battles so goodness knows what I shall be offered when that is published. However the point of this note is that I have a CGC commemorative spoon. It is a German silver tea-spoon topped with a silver and enamel shield with the CGC badge in full colour. On the back it is engraved "HQ CGC RIFLE CLUB BERLIN / GRAND AGGREGATE - LADIES ONLY EVENTS / 31 AUGUST 1947 / WINNER". I have come across a number of items over the years which were clearly designed as souvenirs for the wartime German forces and which after May 1945 had British rather than Nazi badges applied. If anyone would like a photograph of the badge, or indeed to have the spoon please contact me at firstname.lastname@example.org
Posted by: Lt Col Robin Hodges at February 16, 2011 2:45 PM
Ich bin auf der Suche nach Menschen die in DEUTSCHLAND -GOSLAR/Harz -FLIEGERHORSTKASERNE STTIONIERT WAREN BIS APRIL 1950.
iCH HABE FOTOS DIE WEITERHELFEN KÖNNTEN.
Wer kennt eine Musikgruppe BADAJOZ XLV?????
Werkennt evtl. Bill Snashall
Bernhard Grace,Brian Wiltshire,Georg Goslow,James Lowe,Brüder Todd,ein Mr.Jenkins ???????????
Über eine nachricht wäre ich sehr dankbar.
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Posted by: G.Giesemann at March 1, 2011 11:36 AM
Dear Families and Friends of CCG,
I have read with interest the various stories from the past concerning CCG on this web site.
I am not a researcher! I am trying to help a lady, who's mother(lives in the USA), who escaped the horrors of Auschwitz, before suffering in
Muna - Luebberstedt Forced Labour camp near Bremen.
After being rescued by British forces near Eutin from a bombed train, the mum was cared for by a German Jew who was with the British forces. He then cared for her whilst she was billeted at the Neustadt in Holstein refugee camp.
Sponsorship and passage to the USA was possibly initially organised by the CCG?
I can find no mention of a CCG detachment in Eutin/Nuestadt or Ploen area! Maybe it was Hamburg?
Does anyone have any information on the CCG detachments in Schleswig Holstein?
Posted by: Alan Yates at March 24, 2011 10:12 AM
Are there any CCG members out there who have any photos of No3 Car Unit which was based at EspelKamp (old Munitions Camp)?
Espelkamp was very close to Luebecke and not far from Bad Oeynhausen. I believe the Car Unit was the main transport unit suporting CCG in the area!
Posted by: Alan Yates at April 21, 2011 8:18 AM
I'm wondering if anybody who has been researching CCG has come across the names of Edward J Newcombe RNVR and Dorothy Shaw. They are my parents deceased, and they apparently met in Luneburg whilst serving with the CGC. I know little of their time there although I have a set of photographs of a trip they made to Austria in about 1948-49.
We immigrated to Tasmania in 1963 and they brought little of their past with them.
I'd be very pleased to hear from anybody who may have come across their names in their research
Posted by: adam newcombe at June 21, 2011 5:43 PM
I have discovered a card in amongst a load of postcards I bought - it is a card with the words 'List of Jurors' Surname - Chandler Christian name(s) Gilbert John CCG Occupation Civil Servant Address Zonal Car Org Lubbecke... wonder what he was in the jury for and what was his day to day role? - I am ex MOD Civil Servant too - so quite curious...
Posted by: Bee Wise at June 21, 2011 8:08 PM
I am working on a book dealing with released prisoners from the Neuengamme prison system Hamburg. Many stayed in Hamburg working in the black market trading Brit. soldiers for cigs and choc.
Anyone with information, please contact me at:
Thank you for your kind attention
Posted by: Carolyn at July 16, 2011 7:42 PM
My mother and father met in Lubbecke whilst both working in the CCG. My mother was in the Health Dept and was initially based in Bunde. My father was in the Transport Dept after leaving the Army. They met and married in 1947 and stayed in married quarters in Lubecke until returning to UK in 1950. They are William Curel and Evelyn Wilshaw both now passed away. I know my mother worked directly to a Major? Any info please let me know.
Posted by: Graham Curel at August 18, 2011 8:45 AM
My father, Leslie Smith, ex regular, Kings Own Second Batallion, served in the CCG, mainly in Berlin, as a driver, and met and married a local girl called Marianne.
Does anybody remember anything about him?
Posted by: leslie smith at August 24, 2011 4:58 PM
My father, Matthew Duffy, formerly of The Royal Tank Regiment,worked for the CCG in Hanover, Oldenburg, Herford, Cologne and Munchen Gladbach. I was born in Hanover and lived in Germany until my father's contract ended in 1955 or thereabouts. I remember going to nursery school in Bad Salzuflen, then the Volkspark school in Cologne. We later lived on the Rheindalen army base. Does anyone have any links with these places, or know anything of the work my father may have done? I know he travelled a lot between sectors. i believe he worked for Sir Frank Pakenham, later Lord Longford. Thank you.
Posted by: Maureen Watson at September 25, 2011 7:46 PM
con. Alan Yates. Name of the Towns where: PLÖN --EUTIN-- and Neustadt on the Baltic Sea.Plön had a engl School for the married Families Children.I will try to find out mor eabout your Interest. We had a CCG here in Rendsburg on the Kiel Canal. Have a number of Photos etc. Best regards Heinz Johannsen. Phone 0049 4331 448855 or Email
Posted by: Heinz Johannsen at November 19, 2011 8:16 PM
My parents Nancy Rennison (formerly ATS) and Anthony Phillips (formerly Royal Navy) met while working for the CCG in Berlin and also lived in Minden where my brother was born. Does anyone remember either of them?
To the person on this site who said he met someone called Nancy who went into Hitler's Bunker, I'm sure my mother Nancy told me this (she is now dead so I cannot verify).
I have some papers about all this and will find them and return to this site at some point.
Posted by: Virginia at December 8, 2011 12:06 AM
I am researching my grandfather, Major Cecil E Bellamy, of the Intelligence Corps, who served with the CCG between 1945 and 1948. I have virtually no information on his service with the CCG, and it would be great to hear from anyone who has come across this name. It's possible that he was involved in some way with investigations into former allied prisoners of war, escapes, and so on as he had previously been attached to MI-9.
Posted by: David at December 12, 2011 12:18 AM
I have a number of Photos of the CCG Rendsburg. Also funny Dress Parties, etc. and I'm looking for any Photos of Brit. Soldiers, Units or Barracks in Schleswig Holstein Germany, pay well. regards Heinz Johannsen
Posted by: Heinz Johannsen at December 28, 2011 10:16 AM
Like many others, I am trying to discover more information regarding my father who died when I was relatively young and certainly too young to ask the question "What did you do in the war Dad?". Following the death of my mother I found a large quantity of items referring to my father and his time in the services.
Robert HALL was a Sapper in the Royal Engineers and spent time on various postings but I am trying to find more information regarding his time as a Supervisor with no.8 Demolition Team, 576 H.Q. C.C.G. (B/E) Flensburg 1948-49.
Is there anyone out there who can help?
Posted by: Eric Hall at February 9, 2012 10:53 AM
Hi, we are searching for details of Kathleen Mary Shaw who we believe joined the Control Commission in mid 1946 along with her sister (Joan?) and friend Elizabeth. Kathleen would have been 23 or 24 in 1946.
Very grateful for any information.
Posted by: Brian Wyatt at February 15, 2012 7:14 PM
I am so hoping to somehow find out some information concerning my father, Paul Ashbee, who served with the Control Commission from 1945 to early 1945 returning to the UK to study at the Institute of Archaeology. I would love to know what his role(s) were - I have some photos (skiing, sightseeing, socialising) - but nothing factual. He died over two years ago. I would really appreciate some help too in finding out his war time records. Thanks
Posted by: Kate Massey at February 26, 2012 6:21 PM
I have a security pass for my grandfather, FRED BATTMAN, served in the CCG in 1945 but thats all I know, where, why, how long, who with? Can anyone help? Thank you. Helen
Posted by: Helen Thomas at March 12, 2012 8:15 PM
I am hoping someone can help me with finding information about a WILLIAM FRAZER from Glasgow, Scotland who was serving in Lubeck from 1945. He was definitely there in 1945, but not sure when he went back home. From the photo my friend has he was in a Scottish unit but it is not clear enough to identify which unit. My friend's mother's name was MARIA BITZ and was an embroiderer. She was German as is my friend. William Frazer does not appear on her birth certificate and sadly, it was not until my friend's mother was dying that she revealed that William Frazer was her real father, a fact she kept secret as we believe he was already married. I am from Australia where my friend lives now and all my avenues of research have come to a dead end so if anyone can offer me any information or help of any kind it would be very much appreciated. I should say that we do not wish to cause any distress to any family he may have in Scotland but it would be really good to know what he did in Lubeck. My email is firstname.lastname@example.org
Posted by: Chris Pitman at April 20, 2012 5:46 PM
My parents in law, Margaret (nee Donaldson) and Andrew McFadzean, were in the CCG , I believe in Hannover, until around 1949. My late husband (Andrew) was born there in 1948. My mother in law has passed away and my father in law now has dementia and occasionally gets quite agitated about various events, currently about what happened right at the end of the war. He believes he was directly involved with signing of documents. Before he became ill he spoke little of his wartime experiences, it is only now that he tells these stories, and I have no way of knowing the facts, although many of his tales do have a grain of truth somewhere. I would be pleased to hear from anyone who recognises his name.
Posted by: Lynn McFadzean at April 23, 2012 11:49 AM
I would like to hear from anyone who has information about Andrew and Margaret (Donaldson) McFadzean, my parents in law, who were in the CCG in Hannover after the war until approx 1949. They were from the Glasgow area. My late husband was born while they were in Hannover in 1948. Margaret has passed away but my father in law Andrew is now 92 but sadly has dementia. He occasionally becomes quite agitated trying to tell us about things that happened during his time there, and we are not quite sure what is true and what isn`t. There is usually a grain of truth behind most of what he says. Unfortunately, when he was younger he did not talk a lot about his experiences at that time and my knowledge of the immediate aftermath of the war is sketchy so it would be interesting to talk to someone who can help to shed a little light.
Posted by: Lynn McFadzean at April 23, 2012 2:38 PM
I am trying to trace my father, Alfred Eric Walton who served in the control commission at the wars end, he there met and married a German lady not telling her that he had been married before, at that point I lost all contact with him and am now trying to piece together his war time and post war history.Can any one help?
Posted by: Keith Walton at June 22, 2012 6:08 AM
I'm researching the family history surrounding my Grandfather Jens Frederick Thorn, born 1895, who was in the Metropolitan Police in Hackney prior to WW2 and then was in the CCG.
The only information I have about his service in the CCG is word of mouth and I believe he was stationed in Berlin. I have a photo of him wearing a blazer with the CCG badge. The photograph has a stamp on the back - Puck Studio Reichsstrasse 2 Berlin. Not sure if this means he was necessarily stationed in Berlin though?
The interesting part of his story is that he went to Germany in his late 40's leaving a wife and 3 daughters behind. The next part of his history that I can pick up is that he married Meta Erna Klara Wasmund (a German) in Greenwich 30th June 1951.
Family hearsay suggests that Meta's first husband was captured by the advancing Russians and never seen again.
I'm amazed that my Grandfather first of all managed to fraternise with the "enemy" so successfully, and then latterly managed to bring her into the country, particularly as he was still a married man.
There is obviously an untold human story to be discovered here and any help in piecing together any hitherto undiscovered facts would be gratefully received.
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Posted by: Colin King at June 23, 2012 1:14 PM
Control Commission Berlin 1946-1948
My late Mum, Marian Norton from Barnsley, was with the ATS in Berlin. Mum was only 4'11" and her nickname was "Kleine". I do remember her talking about a friend called Joey Newling, who she did keep in contact for a while.I have a group photo taken on 25th January 1946, with the backdrop of a large ATS badge. The group are: Captain Wintour S.O.III, Win- chief clerk SQMS, Hugh-orderly, Miss Cordwell-PA to Brigadier, Janet ATS Clerk, Major Hayes S.O. II, Ted-clerk, Jenny-typist,Brigadier Chief, Joyce-typist,Marian Norton-typist.
My Mum met and married my Dad Danny Harvey while in Germany, and married in Hamburg on 13th November 1948.
Posted by: Susan Platt at July 23, 2012 10:22 AM
Further to my post of 2008, I have now acsertained my father (Arthur Edward Pearman)worked in Bonn for the 1st District Censorship Station until 1947. I believe this was a joint venture between British Military Intellegence and the Belgians. This is as well as his possible posting in Essen. Any info on this venture would be welcome.
Posted by: Adrian Pearman at August 1, 2012 4:21 PM
Re your post of 22 Nov 2010. Would it be possible for you to contact me at the following email firstname.lastname@example.org.
Posted by: Adrian Pearman at August 1, 2012 4:34 PM
My father Patrick Leo O'Neill was with the CCG circa 1947 onwards. The family moved to Germany to NORTHEIM. My sister and myself went to King Alfred School Plon Schlegwig Holstein when it was first opened in 1948. I've just been sorting thru photographs of that period and wondered if I might find anything "on the net" hence this message. Anyone out there remember us - Mum Anne, sister Eileen, brother Anthony (the youngest).
Posted by: Shelagh O'Neill at August 20, 2012 5:39 PM
I am looking for any information on my father Kenneth Hunt MC who was Controller German News Service Hamburg in 1946 and subsequently with the Control Commission. He married Maria Christiane Borelli in 1948.
Posted by: Tim Kilpatrick at August 24, 2012 4:35 PM
Amongst my late mother's papers I have found an article reprinted from the Citizen & Bulletin, December 7th 1945 about my father, Freddie W Lichfield and a colleague Mr R W A Tomlinson stating that they were "members of a team of three appointed to advise the Ministry of Aircraft Production on the removal to this country or destruction of manufacturing plant and equipment surplus to Germany's peace-time requirements...". There is also an album of photos of buildings in various states of collapse, which may also relate to this venture. Does any of this strike a cord with anybody. I did know that he was sent to Germany after the war to act as interpreter on some kind of mission and am curious to find out more if I can.
Posted by: Julia Molden at August 27, 2012 11:38 AM
My father Victor Bartlett was in Berlin in 1946/47 with the CCG. He was a civil servant with the Ministry of Aircraft Production/Supply prior to this. He was a talented musician and conductor. I have a photograph of him conducting an orchestra in Berlin which may or may not have been the Berlin Philharmonic. It was a major concert as I have photos of a soprano who wrote on the back of the photo how she enjoyed the concert. My father also was the musical director/conductor responsible for a concert (The Mikado) put on in Harrow for the Bomber Week to raise money for a Lancaster bomber. The programme was signed by Graham Green of G&S fame as well as A V Alexander who had been in the cabinet during the war. I am trying to find out more on my father's life in England (He lived in Rayners Lane in 1944) before he emigrated with our family to South Africa in 1947, I would be appreciative if anyone has any information on his background in Berlin during this period
Posted by: Dr John Bartlett at September 11, 2012 1:54 PM
My father finished the war in the Military Government,Berlin, as the 'Town Mayor' for the Wilmersdorf district of Berlin, and my mother, sister and I joined him there in February 1946. They clearly thought I would benefit from the experience, even though there was no British schooling - and I did!
My father's office was at 89/90 Kaiserdamm, near the junction with the Reichskanzler Platz (as it was known then). The NAAFI, Puck cinema and Jerboa theatre were there also.
We lived in Marienburger Allee, and I went twice a week to a German house in Lassen Strasse, named the Defraschule, but there does not seem to be any record of its existence. There were only two British children involved, me and a girl called Helen Mather, and we were taught by a Herr Doktor Doktor (yes, 2 Doctorates) Wenderoth, who looked about 90, but was probably nearer 60, and who spoke no English. We did maths, German, and German history omitting both wars, but we did address the Franco-Prussian war and read Goethe's Hermann und Dorothea (not easy as our German was basic and his English non-existent), which had the war as its background (so we must have learnt something!!
We travelled out on the Empire Hallidale from Tilbury to Cuxhaven via the Kiel Canal, and returned on the same ship 18 months later.
It was an unforgettable experience for a 12-year-old.
I have read some, but not all, of the posts to date; if this contribution rings a bell with anyone, respond to this post and I will provide my email address. In the meantime I will get back to reading those I have missed
Posted by: Bernard Allen at September 15, 2012 3:27 PM
Re your post of 25 September 2011; my late wife was a teacher at the school in the Volkspark, Cologne, from September 1954 to July 1958. You were not too sure about when you left Cologne, but if you think these dates may cover your residence there, please respond to this post, as I have photos of children and teachers which may be of interest.
Posted by: Bernard Allen at September 15, 2012 4:21 PM
The post by 'anonymous' at 3:27 on Sep 15 was by me, Bernard Allen, and I have no idea why it was labelled anonymous!
Posted by: Bernard Allen at September 19, 2012 10:17 AM
Your post did come up as 'anonymous' for some reason, but we've now amended it to show your name.
Posted by: Whickham Web Wanderers at September 20, 2012 10:53 AM
I am currently transcribing my grandfather’s many letters to my grandmother. He was an engineer C.C.G called Walter Roche based at Hamburg B.A.O.R. He writes in detail about the food he eats, the journeys he takes and even provides diagrams of the various mess's, bars and hotels he frequently visits. I have not scanned them in yet, but if anyone would like to see them this will encourage me to do complete this task!
Posted by: Donovan at November 2, 2012 5:17 PM
I have just reread the various entries above and noted two things.
One - in Susan Platt's entry 23/7/2012 she mentions Captain Wintour who has the same name as Joan Woollard's partner in later life, John Wintour a captain in the Army. She told us that she bumped into him in London some time after she had returned from Berlin. He has previously been a prisoner of war.
Secondly on the back of the invitation to the Allied Nations Ball is the note "with love from Freddy". Joan told us that Freddy was instrumental in 'rescuing' professionals from the Russian sector. But he had to leave Berlin as his cover was about to be 'blown'. There are one or two Freds/ Alfreds mentioned above - Any comments?
Posted by: Vicky Woollard at November 9, 2012 7:40 PM
I have found this site by accident. My mother was with the Control Commission in Berlin immediately after the war. Her name was Peggie Pickering (nee Woods), she had been widowed in the war. I am planning a trip to Berlin in November and wonder if there is any reference to all this out there. If anyone remembers Peggie I would love to hear more.
Posted by: Penny White at January 23, 2013 3:51 PM
My parents met in the Control Commission after the war. My Mum was Joyce Facer then and worked in an office in firstly Northeim then Herford doing clerical work related to the records held on Germans who wished to move around the country. My Dad, Mick Byrne, worked mainly at Herford but also at Matchbox which I understand was related to both tracking down war criminals and trying to to get the scientists before any other nation did. He died recently and rarely talked about it, but he worked in an office that dealt with passport control, which is how he met my Mum. They married in 1948 and returned to the UK within about a year. I'd be delighted for any info that anyone has.
Posted by: S Bregeon at March 10, 2013 7:34 PM
A recent comment posted under Control Commission Germany on March 19th 2013 approx. has been deleted in error. Please re-send.
Posted by: Whickham Web Wanderers at March 20, 2013 10:44 AM